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Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby luminous » Mon Nov 14, 2005 05:38

I couldn`t belive the jump in quality from the last film,this is amazing quality.
The film was funny too,i especially liked the babylon 5 section.The Sherrypie character with his long speeches cracked me up.
I`d be interested to know how the fx were done,they look fantastic,even the details of the bridge,phaser fire & up to the immense battle scenes.
From watching Lost Contact it looked like the starships/planets were ripped from Next generation/Ds9.I imagine a good few things were taken from b5 too like the fighters and jumpgates,but i wonder how much was original fx?,the fx looked better here than they ever did on B5 when it was showing.
Great movie,looking forward to the next one:D
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Postby Mulzi » Mon Nov 14, 2005 13:13

nothing was ripped from anywhere in any movie

ship designs we're re-modeled by various 3D-artists
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby StarFuryUK » Sat Nov 22, 2008 16:06

The FX were excellent. Much better than the original B5 Amiga 1200 graphics :-)

How many computer processors did it take to render the graphics/ over how long? I've always been interested in creating my own short animations.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Samuli Torssonen » Sat Nov 22, 2008 19:41

check out the making of information on star wreck site: even pics of our "renderfarm" in my kitchen :)

http://www.starwreck.com/tech_post.php
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby StarFuryUK » Sat Nov 22, 2008 20:12

Interesting read Samuli,

I'm just "acquiring" Lightwave now. I might be able to render a bouncing ball or something in the next 5 years :-)

It was fascinating seeing the evolution of computers you used. Its a wonder the power grid in Tampere didn't blow up.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Captain Hayes » Thu Dec 04, 2008 19:04

I bet that Samuli's apartment was toasty warm during the winter months with all the heat the computer farm was generating. I have two computers in the "computer room" of my home (one for me, one for my wife) and the heat generated from two computers running all the time makes that room a good 10 degrees F warmer than any other room in the house.

I'm probably one of the oldest members (in age) of this message board (I was one of the "Original Trekkies", attended a Trek Convention in 1977 and watched the Space Shuttle Enterprise fly piggy-back on a modified 747 and guide back to Earth). I have some basic computer skills (sysop of one of the first old style FidoNet BBS, then a WWIV board) but I'm absolutely amazed and astounded by the sheer quality of work that The Star Wreck crew has given us. The battle sequences are on par with anything Hollywood has given us - as good as Nemesis (the ramming of Kickstart into Excavator was superior to that of the Enteprise-E's ram into Scimatar). Needless to say, my programming skills of Pascal and C++ pale in comparison.

But Star Wreck may have started out to be a special effects movie about space battles and explosions, it eventually morphed into something much bigger - a true theatrical-length movie with a story, a plot, answers to how two different universes could have such a battle. I have a friend who hates Trek of any kind but is a huge Babylon 5 fan and he loves Star Wreck. The parody aspect is subtle at times and doesn't insult the fans for being Sci-Fi fans.

Whether it's Sherrypie's speeches, Pirk's megamania, Dwarf's barely-controlled anger, Lt. Swagger's sneering contempt of Pirk or the great tactical battle genius that both Pirk and FesterBester demostrated showed acting abilities on par with theatrical students in Universities.

I admit that the stunning visual effects was the first thing that I noticed about Star Wreck's Pirkinning but it has made itself one of my favorite movies to watch. There's only one Trek movie that I enjoy more than Pirkinning and that's The Wrath of Khan. Very high prasie coming from one of the very first Trek geeks.

So Samuli and company, the computer work was fantastic but everybody involved produced soemthing that ended up being much more than the sum of it's parts.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Timo Vuorensola » Sat Dec 06, 2008 02:43

Now that's a very nice thing to say, thanks man!
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Nemesis » Sat Jan 24, 2009 02:33

My first post here. Just a quick note.

I watched the film, Starwreck (imperial edition). It is hysterically funny. All my sci-fi friends in Sweden who have seen it, think it is brilliant. My sci-fi friends in Northern Ireland (Ulster, which has a similar sense of humour to Finland) where I grew up, have all loved it and think the humour in it was perfect. It shows well on large LCD screens and household projectors, which is great for a large group of friends, having some food, a few drinks and watching a good film, like Starwreck.

My personal opinion is that it is not only a very good take on Babylon 5 and Star Trek, but is actually an extremely good film, in its own right. I have downloaded the Starwreck film from the website. I will be purchasing the Imperial Edition for myself, after seeing it in my friends home.

A suggestion if you do not mind. Please release the Imperial Edition on Blu-Ray. A lot of people are starting to upgrade to Blu-Ray. I would purchase it on Blu-Ray.

Regarding the CGI. I am not upgrading my 3ds max 4. I can no longer afford to. I am now trying to learn Blender ( www.blender.org ) and switching to Gimp (www.gimp.org )as a replacement for Photoshop. I am using my money to purchase an i7 in two months, which I cannot really afford at present, due to the local economic situation.

CGI is my hobby. I will never be good enough to be professional. However I would like to give my personal opinion regarding Starwreck CGI, if you don't mind, as I have seen a lot of science fiction over the years. I am a serious science fiction fan.

Starwreck is a film made without a big budget studio or the resouces of a large film, yet the CGI is far better and better delivered than most sci-fi shows I have seen, in all honesty. It is as funny in some parts as Mel Brooks films. I know some people may be pissed of at me for saying this, but I think only Battlestar Galactica has had better CGI, in reality. That is a significant achievement, particulary considering it was done in people's homes. That achievement should be recognised, by more than just fans of the film, but by people in the film/CGI industries.

Starwreck, is not only a good film, it is also an inspiration to those of us, who always believed that the thought of us making a film was insane. Starwreck, has shown a lot of people, that a film can be made, by those with low budgets.

Iron Sky should be released in the cinema's worldwide and then later on Blu Ray and DVD. Put yourselves on the map, worldwide. You deserve to be recognised, for the hard work you have done.

I just want to say, keep up the very good work. The idea behind Iron Sky is crazy and brilliant. I look forward to Iron Sky.

Basically, thank you for showing it can be down, without a hollywood budget. I have started on my scripts. I don't think my ideas are as good as those behind Starwreck, but you have shown anything is possible. You may not realise, but you have inspired a few people to try it themselves.

THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby gungan » Sun Jan 25, 2009 16:26

Regarding the CGI. I am not upgrading my 3ds max 4. I can no longer afford to. I am now trying to learn Blender ( http://www.blender.org ) and switching to Gimp (http://www.gimp.org )as a replacement for Photoshop. I am using my money to purchase an i7 in two months, which I cannot really afford at present, due to the local economic situation.


Try TrueSpace 7.6, its now free ( http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/s ... stcount=45)
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Nemesis » Sun Jan 25, 2009 21:27

gungan wrote:
Regarding the CGI. I am not upgrading my 3ds max 4. I can no longer afford to. I am now trying to learn Blender ( http://www.blender.org ) and switching to Gimp (http://www.gimp.org )as a replacement for Photoshop. I am using my money to purchase an i7 in two months, which I cannot really afford at present, due to the local economic situation.


Try TrueSpace 7.6, its now free ( http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/s ... stcount=45)


Thanks for that.

I have Truespace. i downloaded and all the tutorials, when it was annouced it is now free.

Blender is developing fast and Blender 2.5 looks like it will be promising. I intend to stick with the Blender development path and use Gimp for texture work.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Thierry Gschwind » Mon Jan 26, 2009 17:47

Nemesis wrote:A suggestion if you do not mind. Please release the Imperial Edition on Blu-Ray. A lot of people are starting to upgrade to Blu-Ray. I would purchase it on Blu-Ray.


I don't think you would get more, if Star Wreck would come on BluRay, since it was filmed in SD. The only thing could be a huge collector edition, which has everything on one BluRay.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Samuli Torssonen » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:37

Yes, we could enchance the resolution AND the acting quality by replacing all the live action scenes with CGI...a good idea indeed...
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Jarmo Puskala » Wed Jan 28, 2009 13:00

Nemesis wrote:THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION.


Thank you for your kind words. I think that inspiring ispretty much the greatest thing we can do and it's great to hear when it works.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Nemesis » Wed Jan 28, 2009 14:35

Samuli Torssonen wrote:Yes, we could enchance the resolution AND the acting quality by replacing all the live action scenes with CGI...a good idea indeed...


Final Fantasy:)

The acting in Starwreck is actually very funny. I loved it. I had some very good laughs watching that film.

Keep the actors.
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Re: Brilliant,how did you create the fx?

Postby Nemesis » Wed Jan 28, 2009 14:50

Jarmo Puskala wrote:
Nemesis wrote:THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION.


Thank you for your kind words. I think that inspiring ispretty much the greatest thing we can do and it's great to hear when it works.


Welcome.

I had avoided film, due to cost. Starwreck has shown that it can be done.

Now with some com[puter power and some insane friends, anything might be possible.

Looking forward to Iron Sky.
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